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Post by Gary Dreyer (Rangers) on Nov 19, 2011 13:35:56 GMT -5
During the season you may want to add and drop players. You must realize that any player you add, you will be responsible for their contract. Any player that you drop, you will be responsible for 1/2 of their remaining contract. This will count against your current and future years cap for any player with multiple years on their contract. Any player that you add the day after the actual World Series ends, will only count toward the next years cap. If one of your players decides to retire, you may drop them without any hit on your cap. The waiver order will be set by Fantrax.
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Post by jameson (Marlins) on Feb 6, 2012 19:16:00 GMT -5
If I drop a player with a $2M contract for 2012, 2013, and 2014, then I'm on the hook for $1M for 2012, 2013, and 2014. Do I have that right?
Also, if someone else picks that player up, am I off the hook for the contract? Or am I paying $1M and the person who picks him up is paying $1M?
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Post by jameson (Marlins) on Feb 6, 2012 21:37:37 GMT -5
Second question: If I drop a player worth $2M, I take on $1M. If I want to pick up him, do I pay $2M + $1M I already had? So my total investment would be $3M?
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Post by Gary Dreyer (Rangers) on Feb 6, 2012 22:08:06 GMT -5
Yes if you drop a player you take on half his salary. If you pick him back up you would have to pay his full salary again.
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Post by jameson (Marlins) on Feb 6, 2012 22:11:09 GMT -5
And for my earlier question, if I drop someone and someone else picks him up, am I still responsible for half his salary? And the guy making the pickup also pays full price?
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Post by jameson (Marlins) on Feb 20, 2012 22:52:08 GMT -5
Poll: Picking up players following the draft. Two options up for vote are:
A) If you pick up an undrafted free agent, you must sign him to full his contract. Any player cut from a roster post-draft, can be signed to a one-year deal for his 2012 salary as listed on the spreadsheet. That player will automatically become a free agent after the 2012 season.
For example, if Vernon Wells goes undrafted, you can pick him up at his full contract which runs through 2014. But if Vernon Wells is drafted and cut, you can pick him up at his spreadsheet salary $24M in 2012, but he will be a free agent after the season.
B) All players whether they are an undrafted free agent or cut from a roster must be paid their full contract as listed on the spreadsheet.
For example: For example, if Vernon Wells goes undrafted, you can pick him up at his full contract which runs through 2014. If he is drafted and then cut, you can pick him up, but you must sign him until his contract is up after the 2014 season.
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Post by Billy Mac (Nats) on Feb 20, 2012 23:08:54 GMT -5
I vote B
but if a player goes undrafted and isnt picked up at all in 2012, he becomes a free agent in 2013.
Also if a player is cut, the team cutting him has to pay 1/2 his salary for every year left on his contract, so if you pick him up you only pay the remaining 1/2 of the salary for the remaining years
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Post by jameson (Marlins) on Feb 20, 2012 23:15:37 GMT -5
I obviously vote A. In real baseball if a team signs a guy who got cut elsewhere it's almost always to a one year deal, but we can't do the same. When they are free agents in the offseason we can dictate how long we want to sign them, so why can't we do the same in-season?
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Post by yankeesgm on Feb 21, 2012 14:27:23 GMT -5
I like Billy's comments - Seems like if a cut player gets picked up, he is basically gets double paid.
I would think that the old team pays half, and the new team pays half.
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Post by Gary Dreyer (Rangers) on Feb 21, 2012 15:28:24 GMT -5
My question with half the contract when picking a player up is what happens if the team picking up the player then decides to drop him. Does he now owe a fourth of his contract. This would start making it real difficult to keep up with if we do it this way because at the end of the playoffs people may get added and dropped the same day.
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Post by Oxford (Phillies) on Feb 21, 2012 15:32:12 GMT -5
I Vote B.
I feel that owners should pay for salary until they are resigned.
Example.
I keep Ryan Howard for 100 games then decide to cut him. He sits as Free Agent for 8 days then another team signs him. $20 Mill divided by 162 equals $123,456.79 per game.
I feel that Phillies are responsible for $13,333,333 (108 games) of his $20,000,000.00 Contract. Then new team is responsible for $6,666,667 (54 Games) of his 2012 contact and whatever else is remaining on his contact. Lets say someone is unwilling to sign Ryan Howard at $20,000,000 a year but is willing to pay $8,000,000 a year. I feel they should be able to come to the Phillies owner and say I will agree to sign Ryan Howard for $8,000,000.00 if you agree to pay for the other $12,000,000.00 a year for X number of years. Just like real baseball. See Yankees - Pirates.
I beleive that if we begain to get off the original spreadsheet, as time passes disputes will come up as to how much someone is paying for a player or someone saying I didn't agree to that amount etc...
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Post by Billy Mac (Nats) on Feb 21, 2012 17:00:47 GMT -5
My question with half the contract when picking a player up is what happens if the team picking up the player then decides to drop him. Does he now owe a fourth of his contract. This would start making it real difficult to keep up with if we do it this way because at the end of the playoffs people may get added and dropped the same day. Yeah if you drop a $10 /yr player and I pick him up you pay $5 and I pay $5, then if I drop him I pay $2.5 and if someone picks him up pays $2.5. |
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Post by Gary Dreyer (Rangers) on Feb 21, 2012 19:56:41 GMT -5
Guys I am an accounting major but that rule is going to be way too hard to keep up with plus I could see collusion involved with this. I just don't think that rule is a good idea. We will be getting away from the contract spreadsheet as well.
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Post by Billy Mac (Nats) on Feb 21, 2012 20:24:12 GMT -5
Guys I am an accounting major but that rule is going to be way too hard to keep up with plus I could see collusion involved with this. I just don't think that rule is a good idea. We will be getting away from the contract spreadsheet as well. How is that getting away from the Spread Sheet?  |
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Post by Gary Dreyer (Rangers) on Feb 21, 2012 20:43:27 GMT -5
Because it will be impossible to keep up with. At least the other way you will know what people owe. I am just afraid that some players may get added and dropped up to 10 times a year so basically you could get the player for free. I would be okay with this rule as long as their is a limit on the amount of times they can be added and dropped. I can see collusion happening real easy this way if there isn't a limit set.
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